If I had to take a wild guess, I would say that group did not get previous infections from similar viruses. We have examples of entire cohorts like this with the Flu. Some have even speculated that masks were not what prevented South Korea from the first waves but it was in fact previous infections that gave them some level of protection.
I live in Ohio, what are the stats like for us? I don't know anyone in those ages who died over that time, so it's nothing I've noticed. I'm just curious now... because I live very close to Indiana.
A simple thought is that is the age group where mortality begins to enter their field of consciousness, so they take more flu shots across the board. Health conscious.
Its also the age where health issues, that perhaps gone unnoticed or begin to progress to the next stage.
I'd also hazard that mitochondrial function, appears to be impacted by preceding toxicity levels, around this age group. But I'm no scientist🤪😂🤣
I'm not sure where you got the numbers. We know that the coding could be manipulated. Are there certain companies that work those states and not others?
I am using the field "Week Ending Date" and Tableau automatically does the week number... I am not using the CDC definition of week number. So, looks like week 53 for the CDC becomes week 1 in the chart above, and then CDC week 2 becomes week 3, etc. I don't see any evidence of this going wrong, but please let me know if you anticipate an issue.
Thanks. Was going to leave a comment there to see if she thinks this explains the above, but comments only for paid subscribers & I'm watching my substack budget 😁
I don't agree with Mary Pat. US working age mortality was up 17.5% in 2021 over 2020 and that could not be due to suicides. homicide, drug Od + covid. The combination of suicides, homicide, and drug Od didn't spike in 2021 over 2020. Covid maybe would add 5% to that group at most. Most of the rest has to be due to vaccines.
Consilient evidence is that deaths from heart disease, cancer, and stroke was level in 2021 over 2020, although the contribution to those categories from the 85+ group DROPPED 14.5%. Who made up the difference? Likely the working age group + 65-84 y.o. and likely vaccines increased their mortality in these categories.
I should have mentioned that most of the covid deaths in the working age group were likely breakthrough deaths where vaccination increased the covid risk in the 21 day window following vaccination.
None of this gets you anywhere near the 137,500 increased deaths in the working age population in 2021 over 2020. Covid is significant, with 485k deaths, but most of those are in the 75+ group. There's about a 5x increase in mortality risk per decade from covid. I expect that the working age population had about 40k covid deaths.
If I had to take a wild guess, I would say that group did not get previous infections from similar viruses. We have examples of entire cohorts like this with the Flu. Some have even speculated that masks were not what prevented South Korea from the first waves but it was in fact previous infections that gave them some level of protection.
It certainly wasn't masks.
I live in Ohio, what are the stats like for us? I don't know anyone in those ages who died over that time, so it's nothing I've noticed. I'm just curious now... because I live very close to Indiana.
Just updated with Addendum showing Ohio. Not good.
WOW. That's... wow.
A simple thought is that is the age group where mortality begins to enter their field of consciousness, so they take more flu shots across the board. Health conscious.
Its also the age where health issues, that perhaps gone unnoticed or begin to progress to the next stage.
I'd also hazard that mitochondrial function, appears to be impacted by preceding toxicity levels, around this age group. But I'm no scientist🤪😂🤣
I'm not sure where you got the numbers. We know that the coding could be manipulated. Are there certain companies that work those states and not others?
The link to the data is in the post. These are All Deaths, so no coding issue
Ok, sorry, duh.
I think you are on to something. The figures are very odd.
Quite what, I have no idea...
There is a 53rd week in 2020. What did you do with that?
I am using the field "Week Ending Date" and Tableau automatically does the week number... I am not using the CDC definition of week number. So, looks like week 53 for the CDC becomes week 1 in the chart above, and then CDC week 2 becomes week 3, etc. I don't see any evidence of this going wrong, but please let me know if you anticipate an issue.
Thanks. Was going to leave a comment there to see if she thinks this explains the above, but comments only for paid subscribers & I'm watching my substack budget 😁
I don't agree with Mary Pat. US working age mortality was up 17.5% in 2021 over 2020 and that could not be due to suicides. homicide, drug Od + covid. The combination of suicides, homicide, and drug Od didn't spike in 2021 over 2020. Covid maybe would add 5% to that group at most. Most of the rest has to be due to vaccines.
Consilient evidence is that deaths from heart disease, cancer, and stroke was level in 2021 over 2020, although the contribution to those categories from the 85+ group DROPPED 14.5%. Who made up the difference? Likely the working age group + 65-84 y.o. and likely vaccines increased their mortality in these categories.
I should have mentioned that most of the covid deaths in the working age group were likely breakthrough deaths where vaccination increased the covid risk in the 21 day window following vaccination.
I would utilise the hammer analogy here. There are other factors at play.
Do you mean because Mary Pat has a hammer, everything has to be a nail?
More, that there when looking for cause, most are still looking for one entity, yet a cascade could be just as likely.
I agree. That was my analysis, as well. The difference between 2020 and 2021 should not and does not appear to be explainable by those factors.
2021:
Poisonings, 76k, up 0.67% over 2020
Suicides, 48k, up 0.68% over 2020
Murders, 20k, up 0.77% over 2020
None of this gets you anywhere near the 137,500 increased deaths in the working age population in 2021 over 2020. Covid is significant, with 485k deaths, but most of those are in the 75+ group. There's about a 5x increase in mortality risk per decade from covid. I expect that the working age population had about 40k covid deaths.
"And just to clarify, you are saying there are roughly 100K "non-covid, non-external excess" deaths in what age group exactly?"
working age population, 15-64 (or 25-64--is almost the same mortality)
I used https://deadorkicking.com/death-statistics/us/2021/
Yes, these account for some, but I don't think all. I covered the drug ODs specifically in this article: https://mariaromana.substack.com/p/the-cdc-reads-my-substack. They only made up about 10% of the excess.
Excess mortality in what group?
Poisonings were relatively level in 2021 compared with 2020.