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Brian Mowrey's avatar

The question to pose is "Ok, up to ~15% of seniors experienced a first time infection with no vaccine beforehand in summer 2021 - is that in the ballpark of how many experienced an infection before that point?" If it is in the ballpark then you have enough fuel to generate an AUC of senior deaths in the Delta wave that is higher than the AUC of 2020-May2021: Essentially, you can get a peak twice as high as the average in 2020 because you have all these first time infections squeezed into fewer months during the Delta wave.

Here is how that math works out. In blood donors, the 65+ were in the low 10s% seropositive in May 2021, though donors might introduce a bias for more risk-averse and pro-vax, it still should be ballpark for the future unvaxxed, https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2784013 fig 3.

So now we have this idea, 10-20% of seniors had an infection before May 2021, this generated an AUC of deaths of "1 unit." Next, 16% of seniors are unvaxxed in May 2021, 10 - 20% of them have natural immunity, so if all of the ones without natural immunity are fuel for Delta, and let's say nine out of ten of those wind up infected with Delta, maybe 13% of all seniors are "unvaxxed with infection in Delta wave." So right away that's close to how many were unvaxxed and infected before May. Given that Delta is more severe, can you get AUC of "~1 unit" again in the Delta wave?

Yes. Easily.

Without the vaccines, but supposing that Delta infects nine out of ten of the 80-90% of seniors with no prior infection as of May 2021, what AUC is expected? ******Up to "7 units."******

Now, for me, this doesn't say that seniors should get vaccinated. It's a big number but plenty of seniors would have been fine - after all, there are plenty of unvaccinated people of all ages still around after Delta and up to today. But it's clear you can start from the expectation that seniors still had "7 units" of AUC deaths to generate in May 2021 and that amount never happened, either because the vaccines prevent death or they put off a lot of those still-to-occur first time infections until Omicron which was milder.

A lot of this comes down to a very common false premise when analyzing 2021 deaths which is to benchmark 2020 as "the worst the virus could do" when in most of the West (aside from NYC, Italy) it was just 1/5 to 1/9 of what it could do. Again, still not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but more than what we saw afterward.

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Alex Eckelberry's avatar

Oh dear, that data is not dispositive in favor of the vaccines... quite surprising.

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